Home | Contact | Sitemap | Forum add to del.icio.us del.icio.us

www.farmers-online.com - The Comprehensive Resource Site for Agents

ATTENTION! This site is NOT authorized by Farmers Insurance Group (more disclaimers)
Now presented to you in: Widescreen HD - High Definition Mode [ Where available ] !
  Home  
FORUM
Would you like to write a page about your Farmers experience?

Create a Page
PRODUCT INFO

-Farmers Billing
-Life Insurance
-Auto Insurance
-Home Insurance

 

WANT TO BE AN AGENT?

Prospective Agents >>READ THIS<<

Reserve Agent Program

Career Agent Program

Farmers Agent Stories

Farmers Agent Job Postings Dismantled
*NEW Entry*

Farmers Agent Gotchas

 

MISC INFO

Agent Lawsuits

Agent News

Employee Stories

 

DOES YOUR DISTRICT MANAGER SUCK?

VOTE HERE!

The District Manager List and Rankings

 

How much did you lose as a Farmers Agent?

Agents Reporting in to date: 50

Updated 05/28/2007

Amount of money I invested in the Farmers Agent :
"The best small business opportunity in America"

Amount Invested < $10,000 $10,000 - 20,000 $20,000 - 40,000 $40,000 - 80,000 $80,000 - 150k $150k+
  12% 18% 24% 20% 8% 18%
             

How much I made back by the Farmers Insurance Agent Opportunity

Return I have not made my money back Lost my investment and had to pay more to Farmers to quit. I broke even Made $10-30k Made $30-70k Made $70-150k Made $150k to $250k Made more than $250k
  28% 28% 18% 8% 12% 6% 0% 0%
                 

Note to self: 0% of agents made in excess of 150k a year however 50% of agents who signed on were told they would make that much!

How much the Farmers District Manager represented I would be making

Projected Income Per Year $70,000 or less $70,000 - $150,000 $150,000-$250,000 More than $250k
  8% 42% 28%

22%

         

 

 

What do we know from this data?

56% of agents will fail and lose money and/or owe money back to Farmers for subsidy debt. This means if you were to flip a coin on if you were going to bankrupt yourself or not, more often than not you will lose.

If you were to just go down to McDonalds and get a job as a burger flipper, you could do better than most Farmers Agents! Why? Because you dont have to pay McDonalds to work for them. If you want to quit, they give you your last paycheck and you're done. Not with Farmers! You spend all of your own money keeping a doomed Insurance Agency afloat then when you decide to leave you owe them money for Subsidy!

56% Of all Agents Lost the money they invested in their Farmers Insurance Agency

61% of Agents that Lost money, invested $20,00 or more

35% of the Agents that Lost money, invested $40,000 or more

28% of Agents end up owing more money back to Farmers after closing down the agency

50% of Agents were told they would make $150,000 or more a year of which 0% of agents have made that much

What Farmers District Managers Dont Tell You As a New Agent

  • The average investment in a new agency is at least $20,000 - 40,000
  • 50% of new agents will lose $80-$200,000 in capital investment and owe back subsidy
  • Unlike the great majority of other Insurance Agent opportunities at most other insurance companies, you do not own your Farmers Agent Book of Business in any way, shape or form.
  • Life Insurance is the most important product to them and the least important to you. As a Farmers agent, your Income on Life Policies is terrible compared to what other life insurance compaies pay their agents.
  • They target people that have no prior experience as an insurance agent for a good reason. You do not know anything about what other companies do or pay their agents. This is so the Farmers DM can lie to you about how good things are

What are the Farmers District Managers Fibbing About??

  • That the grass is greener on the other side.
  • Farmers Pays the best commission: Wrong. They pay 30% lower commissions on Auto. Imagine going somewhere else to be an agent and getting a 30% raise to sell a more competitively priced product that doesnt force you to sell $750 or higher deductibles? Life commissions are off the charts bad. 45-55% compared to 70-200% and a residual!
  • New Agents in a certain district in Arizona were told they would only need $5,000 to get started. Looking at the average agent surveyed, this is very far from the truth.
  • Their real intention is to have you burn your friends and family and wash out of the program.

 

Copyright 2007 farmers-online.com. farmers-online.com is a non-commercial, non-profit, consumer advocacy site which is also Unauthorized by Farmers Insurance Group and Zurich. All informatin contained is for educational use only. This site is not affiliated with Farmers Insurance Group or Zurich. The voice of the general populous is provided in the form of indirect posting to the site through submissions to moderators. Postings may be edited for spelling and grammar content and responded to with remarks of opinion by moderators.

Additional Disclaimers: farmers-online.com is a website for former Farmers Insurance Agents and Employees and has been converted into an informational site to benefit the current Farmers Insurance Agents and Ex-Farmers Insurance Agents. We want to help you transition from your repressive state of existence to live in the free world. Stories submitted by each agent are experiences of that individual person. Contributions from other sources are also experiences and commentary of that party. farmers-online.com is not a person or a company, it is a inanimate website that represents ideas and discussions of a class of people who are noted as "Current and Former Employees, Agents and DM's of Farmers Insurance Group". Information existing on this site are anonymous submissions of the class representing this website. All information obtained here should be used for educational purposes. Just as you would if you were to read the bible and refrain from heaving stones at prostitutes. We absolutely stress that any decision you make be a fully informed one from every source available to you. farmers-online.com is merely one source to find this information.

All content on this site may be reproduced with permission. You may link to any information provided on this domain without request. In fact we encourage it. If you wish to have your site linked from us, please write for consideration.